Zainab Abdulkarim, Oslo
Oslo - Files: How a Smuggling Network Manipulated the System
10.10.2025
Oslo Port - Norway
Following these events, and after the victims relocated to Oslo in 2014, the main coordinator of the 2008 smuggling operations reappeared, having deceived everyone through what was called the "Charitable Art Exhibitions" project. She moved from Skien to the capital, Oslo, after failing to locate the victims in smaller towns, employing deceptive tactics that included feigning a mental breakdown in hospitals and requesting to meet the victims, while instructing her associates in Italy to contact the Norwegian police, falsely claiming to be high-level witnesses from the Iraqi Embassy in Rome. In reality, the caller was a security guard at the embassy who had assisted her in her illegal activities in 2008.
Eventually, the coordinator managed to determine the location of the victims and moved to live nearby, marking the beginning of a new phase of stalking, pressure, and intimidation.
Sources indicate that during this period, she stayed at the residence of a Norwegian police officer who lived very close to the victims’ home. This officer had previously assisted her in the first case after being misled by false claims, which caused him to act in violation of the law without realizing the full scope of the situation. Later, the coordinator exploited this trust and that incident in particular, using the officer’s position to create a false impression among certain police officers in Oslo. Acting under a sense of “professional loyalty” to defend their colleague, these officers were manipulated into adopting unethical practices similar to those previously employed by the Fredrikstad City Council candidate in Fredrikstad, in coordination with Police Attorney HFI004.
In 2022, the coordinator escalated her actions by exploiting the same officer, who was in fact one of her victims due to the deception, and had him, outside the scope of his official duties and without realizing the full extent of the conspiracy, confront the victims outside his home, demanding that he delete the published information about the main coordinator of the smuggling operations and refrain from reporting it.
A map illustrating the Fredrikstad City Council candidate’s relocation from Haugesund–Tysvær to Fredrikstad in 2009_2010, a turning point in his activities, during which he expanded his extortion network targeting the individual smuggled from Rome in 2008, using his new location as a base to orchestrate false accusations and apply pressure that later reached Oslo.
Following these events, after the victims who had been smuggled relocated to Oslo in 2014, the main coordinator of the 2008 smuggling operations reappeared, having deceived everyone through what was called the "Charitable Art Exhibitions" project. She moved from Skien to the capital, Oslo, after failing to locate the victims in smaller towns, employing deceptive tactics that included feigning a mental breakdown in hospitals and requesting to meet the victims, while instructing her associates in Italy to contact the Norwegian police, falsely claiming to be high-level witnesses from the Iraqi Embassy in Rome. In reality, the caller was a security guard at the embassy who had assisted her in her illegal activities in 2008.
"In 2010, a guard contacted the Norwegian police, falsely claiming to be a witness on behalf of the coordinator of the 2008 smuggling operations and to hold a senior position at the Iraqi Embassy in Rome. His intention was to mislead the authorities and support her fabricated narrative, while she pretended to suffer a mental breakdown in the hospital to gain sympathy and conceal her past."
It is noteworthy that the guard himself had been forcibly deported from Norway to Italy by the Norwegian authorities before 2008.
Eventually, the coordinator managed to determine the location of the victims and moved to live nearby, marking the beginning of a new phase of stalking, pressure, and intimidation.
Sources indicate that during this period, she stayed at the residence of a Norwegian police officer who lived very close to the victims’ home. This officer had previously assisted her in the first case after being misled by false claims, which caused him to act in violation of the law without realizing the full scope of the situation. Later, the coordinator exploited this trust and that incident in particular, using the officer’s position to create a false impression among certain police officers in Oslo. Acting under a sense of “professional loyalty” to defend their colleague, these officers were manipulated into adopting unethical practices similar to those previously employed by the Fredrikstad City Council candidate in Fredrikstad, in coordination with Police Attorney HFI004.
In 2022, the coordinator escalated her actions by exploiting the same officer, who was in fact one of her victims due to the deception, and had him, outside the scope of his official duties and without realizing the full extent of the conspiracy, confront the victims outside his home, demanding that they delete the published information about the main coordinator of the smuggling operations and refrain from reporting it.
A map illustrating the movement of the coordinator of the 2008 smuggling operations, who left the city of Skien in Norway after Salah Al-Saadi failed to carry out the plan in Fredrikstad. She decided to pursue the victims herself, relocating to Oslo, where she spent years attempting to trace their whereabouts and continue the pressure that had begun in Fredrikstad.
In 2022, the coordinator was repeatedly observed wearing a blue coat near the fence of the victims’ home in Oslo, taking advantage of her relationship with a police officer she was residing with. Investigations indicate that she documented the victims’ presence outside their home and claimed that she lived there and that they were stalking her, in what was considered an attempt to present her perspective to the authorities, despite contradictions in the facts revealed by subsequent documentation.
Despite the exposure of these circumstances, some Oslo police officers and attorneys chose to continue engaging with her, safeguarding her interests, and rejecting any actions or cases that might harm her or expose her smuggling network raising questions about professional impartiality and the importance of separating official duties from personal relationships in sensitive cases such as this.
Written correspondence shows that the coordinator of the smuggling operations sent a police officer to the victims' residence in Oslo after finding one of their addresses in 2022, following several years of stalking. This action aimed to intimidate the victims, prevent them from reporting her to the authorities, and pressure them to remove information published about the smuggling operations. The documents indicate that the officer was sent in a manner reminiscent of mafia like tactics, reflecting the coordinator's continued surveillance near the victims' homes and her use of police connections to achieve harassment and concealment objectives.
Information indicates that the police officer himself was among the victims of the network’s deception and cunning, as he was gradually manipulated and exploited to become a tool used against other victims without realizing it at first.
Since then, the Oslo police have prepared more than 27 malicious criminal cases on behalf of the coordinator since 2008, all of which were lost in court. This extraordinary situation highlights the role of certain police officers in Oslo in protecting smugglers and assisting them in extortion through years of malicious prosecutions.
When the coordinator arrived at the victims’ address in Oslo in 2022, she launched a campaign of manipulation and provocation that escalated tensions within the local community and extended to certain police officers. This escalation went beyond social or verbal provocation and directly affected the behavior of some law enforcement personnel who, according to documented reports, acted in ways contrary to the law and appeared aligned with the coordinator’s objectives in support of the smuggling network.
These actions contributed to an atmosphere of chaos and mistrust, reflected in a series of malicious and false cases against the victims, along with unprecedented internal disturbances within the Oslo police, including internal reviews and investigations into the conduct of certain officers. This situation weakened the reputation of the police in the capital and further damaged public trust in law enforcement, worsening an already fragile image of the force.
Available evidence and testimonies indicate that the coordinator’s systematic use of provocation, deceit, and manipulation was employed to control narratives, silence victims, and destabilize the local environment. The records also reveal a repeated pattern of cunning and organized deception previously used in other cities and countries, including Baghdad, demonstrating a remarkable ability to exploit even official mechanisms within law enforcement and immigration systems.
During this period, attorney Samia Boulebtina presented misleading information to the court, claiming that the coordinator had arrived from Iraq instead of Italy, while portraying the victims as the ones who had stalked her even though the events were not real. These statements temporarily affected the proceedings and gave the coordinator a short lived advantage by overturning a restraining order and framing her as a victim.
Later, attorney Samia Boulebtina again attempted to mislead the Borgarting Court of Appeal, but this attempt also failed in 2024.
It is worth noting that the coordinator did not attend any of the more than seven trials held in various courts, while the Oslo police had prepared these malicious cases in her favor ultimately benefiting the smuggling network as the victims continued to be pursued to their homes.
Between 2022 and 2023, the smuggling operations that took place in 2008 were exposed through documented evidence, photographs, and official records, leading to an unprecedented crisis within the Oslo police and causing profound institutional embarrassment that revealed professional weaknesses and a clear loss of public trust in law enforcement. The evidence was sent directly from Baghdad to the esteemed Ministry of Justice and Public Security in Norway, providing official documentation of the incidents and further intensifying the legal and administrative repercussions of the case. In an attempt to contain the crisis, the esteemed Ministry of Justice and Public Security requested that the victims grant the Oslo police a second chance and encouraged them to revisit police stations to report the incidents and formally submit the evidence.
Despite the evidence being submitted to the Ministry of Justice and Public Security, and ministry officials verbally acknowledging the seriousness of the information, the Oslo police failed to conduct a serious investigation, closed the cases, and continued to support members of the smuggling network until the summer of 2025 even as new documents revealed her role in coordinating the facilitation and smuggling of dozens of migrants from Iraq, Italy, and France, under the guise of fictitious opposition activities that deceived institutions and municipalities using precise, sophisticated, and unprecedented fraudulent methods.
“The Ministry of Justice and Public Security stated that individual cases fall under the jurisdiction of the Public Prosecution Authority, and that the ministry does not intervene in investigations or in the closure of criminal cases involving smugglers.”
Official records show that the police in Fredrikstad and Oslo lost more than twenty seven malicious criminal cases between 2010 and 2025, most of which were initiated by individuals connected to human trafficking networks involved in operations dating back to 2008.
The most notable cases include:
10991985/April 21, 2010
Fredrikstad Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
12903062 8470/14-3/June 4, 2014
Fredrikstad Police Station (Salah Hassan Al-Saadi, Qatranada Adnan Abdulhussein)
13020352 14128/14-3/HF1004/February 6, 2015
Fredrikstad Police Station (Salah Hassan Al-Saadi, Qatranada Adnan Abdulhussein)
13020352 14128/14-3/March 26, 2015
Fredrikstad Police Station (Salah Hassan Al-Saadi, Qatranada Adnan Abdulhussein)
15698618 16998/22-201 /June 2, 2022
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
15708286 19483/22-201 /May 18, 2022
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
15802498 43401/22-201/August 3, 2022
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
15975416 4540/23-201 /January 30, 2023
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
16005870 12669/23-201 /March 20, 2023
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
16152651 50102/23-201 /August 14, 2023
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
16190351 60002/23-201 /November 29, 2023
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
13469719 734/23-123/January 17, 2024
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
16152651 374/24-115/JSM005/January 30, 2024
Oslo Police Station (Zainab Abdulkarim Ali)
…and many additional cases filed between 2010 and 2025 at Fredrikstad and Oslo Police Stations involving the same individuals.
This series of cases reveals a repeated pattern of retaliatory and fabricated reports, often used as tools of extortion or personal gain. It raises important questions about the integrity and oversight of certain procedural practices, and how external pressure and bias may have affected the neutrality of official actions.
From a broader institutional perspective, these cases underscore the need to strengthen accountability within law enforcement not by questioning the independence of the judiciary, which consistently rejected those malicious allegations, even despite the police attorneys’ desperate attempts to persuade the court to rule unjustly against the victims, but by emphasizing how police and administrative mechanisms can be influenced in ways that undermine integrity, equality before the law, and public trust in justice.
After the forced displacement of the victims from Oslo under the influence of human trafficking networks, a report was filed against the traffickers to the Western Norway Police, who initially treated the case seriously. However, upon forwarding the case to the Oslo Police, it was immediately closed, with claims that the court had advised the victim not to pressure the traffickers. Documents and evidence reveal that this contradicts reality: over more than a decade, the traffickers actively pursued the victims and even moved to live near their homes, while certain police officers were manipulated or exploited to exert pressure on the victims.
Official records show that the Oslo Police prepared more than 20 separate legal cases between 2014 and 2025 in favor of the traffickers, all of which were dismissed by the courts due to compelling evidence contradicting the false claims submitted by police attorneys in Oslo and Fredrikstad. The last case, dated January 2, 2025, was initially closed by the police because it was based on unethical and fabricated statements in favor of the 2008 trafficking coordinator. Nevertheless, the police sent the case to the court. Victim testimonies and documented confessions confirmed the coordinator’s connections with mafia elements in Italy and highlighted her retaliatory actions.
Even in the face of these facts, the Oslo Police sought a weak pretext to close the case after it had been handled by honest police officers from another region of Norway, reflecting a recurring pattern of criminal networks receiving protection and support through manipulation of certain law enforcement channels. These actions illustrate the significant challenges victims face in defending their rights and obtaining justice, as organized networks repeatedly exploited governmental institutions to shield themselves while exerting pressure and intimidation on their targets.
Unethical legal pursuits: the exploitation of the police by individuals involved in smuggling dozens of migrants to Schengen countries in 2008, followed by more than a decade of legal system manipulation in Fredrikstad and Oslo (2010–2025). Some of these violations were carried out by individuals such as Elise Waaler Huseby (EWA016), Emilie Austrheim Askestad (EAA032), Maren Brit Østern (MB0035), Maren Myklebust Moe (MMM011), and others whose institutional performance revealed a clear propensity for serious errors and a fundamental misunderstanding of the responsibilities entrusted to them reflecting a deep gap between the authority they were granted and the ethical obligations they were expected to uphold. This illustrates how the absence of legal accountability and effective oversight allowed official authority to be used as a tool to protect criminals and pursue victims unethically, despite clear evidence, witness testimonies, and official documentation.
The case of Erik Jensen revealed that corruption within the Oslo Police was not an isolated incident but part of a deeply rooted institutional culture, where personal loyalty to colleagues and superiors outweighed adherence to law and integrity. Official reports, including the report of the Norwegian Police Directorate Committee and the Scandinavian Research Council for Criminology at the University of Oslo (2021), illustrate how ethical concerns were systematically ignored and effective investigative measures were not taken, allowing corruption and abuse of power to persist for decades.
🔗[PDF link of the committee report and conference, 2021]
It is noteworthy that the link to the report “Corruption and Unethical Conduct in the Nordic Police Forces” was removed from the official website of the Nordic Research Council for Criminology shortly after it began circulating. This recurring pattern raises serious questions about the willingness of certain entities within the Oslo Police to engage transparently with investigations concerning their institutional conduct. Attempts to conceal such documents appear to be part of a broader practice aimed at controlling the narrative through institutional intimidation rather than the professionalism expected of law enforcement agencies.
Interpol, Europol, UNODC, IOM, Frontex, Human trafficking, U.S. Department of State, The Nordic Research Council for Criminology, Migrant smuggling, Fraudulent networks, Cross-border fraud, Varden.no, Exploitation under art projects, Photoshop deception, Schengen countries, Italy, Rome, Crotone, Norway, Oslo lufthavn Gardermoen (OSL), Fredrikstad, Skien, Oslo.
The reopening of the traffickers’ file, along with the 2008 smuggling operations, supported by indisputable evidence and reliable witness testimonies, may uncover truths that have long remained hidden, alongside more than twenty-seven malicious and unethical criminal cases systematically fabricated in clear violation of legal and ethical principles.
Whether these actions stemmed from deliberate intent or gross negligence, they reveal a blatant breach of legal and ethical duty by certain individuals within the Oslo and Fredrikstad police forces, who strayed from the oath to uphold truth and justice, substituting the protection of genuine facts with the service of wrongful interests at the expense of victims and the law.
Explanatory Note Regarding the Case Dismissal by the Oslo Police:
The Oslo Police stated in their decision that the legal basis for dismissing the case is the lack of reasonable grounds to investigate the commission of a criminal offense subject to public prosecution, in accordance with Section 224 of the Criminal Procedure Act.
However, a closer examination of the factual context reveals a striking contradiction between the formal legal justification and the practical realities. Since the trafficker coordinator settled near the victim in a police officer’s home, more than twenty malicious criminal cases were filed against the victim at the direct request of the coordinator. All of these cases were unethical and were ultimately lost by both the police and the traffickers.
These facts expose a clear double standard in the application of legal principles: the system found no legal obstacle to issuing malicious cases against the victim, while the original case which reflected actual violations by a trafficking network colluding with police officers was dismissed. This represents a stark example of how laws and official procedures can be exploited to serve illicit interests.
In this context, it becomes evident that those who dared to expose the corruption within the police and the trafficking network became the accused, while the actual perpetrators remained beyond legal accountability, representing one of the most troubling paradoxes in modern Oslo history.
Translation
WEST POLICE DISTRICT
P.O. Box 85
6901 FLORØ
Telephone: 55 55 63 00
16953354 25548/25-207/JHE024
MEMORANDUM
Complaint Regarding Dismissal of Case
Sent with attachments to Hordaland, Sogn og Fjordane Public Prosecutor’s Office, Markeveien 4c, 5012 Bergen,
with reference to the complaint dated 14 October 2025, ref. document 14,01,02, from:
Complainant: [redacted]
Reference is made to the police’s decision to dismiss the case dated 13 October 2025.
The complainant was notified of the decision by the police’s letter dated 14 October 2025, ref. document 14,02,02.
Suspect: [Smuggling operations coordinator]
Address: 0171 Oslo
The suspect has been informed of the complaint through a copy of this memorandum, cf. the Criminal Procedure Act § 59a, fourth paragraph.
The complaint has been filed in due time.
Police Remarks on the Complaint:
The dismissal is based on the fact that there is no reasonable ground to investigate whether a criminal offense subject to public prosecution has occurred, cf. the Criminal Procedure Act § 224.
The assessment is based on a review of the case information and relevant information in other cases in which both the suspect and the complainant have been involved.
Reference is made, among other things, to criminal case 16190351 and the Oslo Police District’s remarks in the complaint transmission included in documents 01,02 of that case.
In the same case, reference is also made to the Borgarting Court of Appeal’s ruling of 18 March 2024 in documents 13,04,07, which concerned a restraining order issued against the complainant in this case. The complainant was explicitly informed that the threshold for imposing a new restraining order would be very low should he resume his improper and intense conduct toward the suspect in this case.
Digitally approved
14.10.2025
JHE024 Created: 15.10.2025 08:45 Case no.: 16953354 Document ID: 201643371
Translation
Their Reference:
Our Reference: 16953354 25548/25-207
Date: 03.10.2025
Confirmation of Reported Incident
The West Police District hereby confirms the receipt of a report regarding the following matter:
Nature of the incident and case:
Type of offense: Human trafficking – facilitation, aggravated
Date of offense: 01.08.2025
Your role in the case: Victim
Case registered with: FEE-A for investigation of human trafficking
Investigator: [Name not provided]
Prosecutor in charge: [Name not provided]
Contact Information:
Telephone: 55 55 63 00
Email: post.vest@politiet.no
The report has now been officially registered with the police. This letter serves as formal confirmation of your report and may be submitted to your insurance company, if relevant. There is no need to contact us unless you have new information.
If you have a claim for compensation in this matter, the prosecution may consider it during further proceedings. The claim must be documented as soon as possible.
Once the case has been concluded by the prosecution, you will receive written notification of the decision.
Questions regarding this case may be directed to the above contact point. Please ensure that you reference our case number in all correspondence concerning this matter.
If you submitted the report on behalf of someone else, the information in this letter applies to the individual(s) for whom the report was filed.
Sincerely,
West Police District
This is a system-generated letter from the police case management system.
Information in English:
Please contact the local police at phone number 02800 if you require an English translation of this letter. Remember to state the reference number 16953354 25548/25-207.
It should be noted that the West Police District treated this case with full seriousness, just as the Ministry of Justice and Public Security did in 2023 when they acknowledged the gravity of the information concerning the network. In contrast, the Oslo Police have continuously blocked and prematurely closed the case, preventing any attempts or procedures to investigate it, despite the abundance of indisputable evidence, witness testimonies, photographs, and official documents proving the network’s involvement in human trafficking. This situation clearly indicates that the network enjoys strong protection from certain members of the Oslo Police, reflecting a serious breach in the administration of justice and the rule of law.
Judicial Clarification on a Stalking Case and Oslo Police Complicity
On January 2, 2025, at 10:00 AM, the court in Oslo held the final session in a long series of cases involving the complicity of certain Oslo Police officers in favor of a human trafficking network. During the session, the Oslo Police sought to impose a visit ban (besøksforbud) / restraining order against the real victims, attempting to portray the trafficking operations coordinator, who has never appeared in court, as the “victim.”
The court concluded that there was no legal basis for imposing such an order and emphasized that a visit ban / restraining order would not appropriately address the situation.
Court Assessment and Facts:
The Oslo Police argued that the victims’ actions were “burdensome” to the trafficking coordinator, referring to their documentation of her repeated presence near their homes. The court noted this behavior but determined that it did not constitute sufficient grounds under § 222 a of the Criminal Procedure Act to impose a visit ban / restraining order.
The case revealed attempts by the Oslo Police to reverse the roles of victims and perpetrators, portraying the traffickers as victims while treating the real victims as defendants. Despite dozens of prior court decisions rejecting attempts to grant legal victim status to the coordinator, Oslo Police selectively cited legal paragraphs and previous failed attempts by police lawyers as pretexts to close cases in favor of the traffickers, blatantly disregarding official evidence and facts.
The trafficking coordinator had previously been responsible for detaining the victims in southern Italy, in the city of Crotone, seizing their funds, and confiscating their artwork, while the victims were pursued and harassed for years in Norway. The victims’ documentation of her repeated presence near their homes was a natural and necessary response, yet Oslo Police considered it “improper and dangerous” and used it to file over 27 vexatious and unethical cases to pressure the courts.
Attempts to Protect the Victims vs. Police Corruption:
The real victims sought court protection against the corruption and conspiracies of certain Oslo Police officers, providing detailed testimonies against the coordinator. However, the police ignored overwhelming evidence and prior court rulings, closing cases in favor of the traffickers while leaving the victims unprotected. This selective application of the law highlights a system manipulated to facilitate perpetrators’ interests at the expense of justice and facts.
Conclusion:
The court confirmed that there was no legal basis to impose a visit ban (besøksforbud) / restraining order against the victims, marking a clear defeat for Oslo Police in their last unethical case of 2025.
The persistence of Oslo Police and the trafficking network in pursuing this order aimed to grant the traffickers legal victim status instead of recognizing them as perpetrators, despite their involvement in smuggling dozens of migrants to Schengen countries. This case serves as a striking example of systemic complicity within elements of Oslo Police, demonstrating how laws can be manipulated for personal gain and favoritism, while real victims remain exposed and unprotected.
𖡡 Documented event in Oslo, Norway 2014 - 2025
Interpol, Europol, UNODC, IOM, Frontex, Human trafficking, U.S. Department of State, ,Ministry of Justice and Public Security Migrant smuggling, Fraudulent networks, Cross-border fraud, Varden.no, Exploitation under art projects, Photoshop deception, Schengen countries, Italy, Rome, Crotone, Norway, Oslo lufthavn Gardermoen (OSL), Fredrikstad, Skien, Oslo.
These violations were not limited to a single officer but extended throughout the Oslo Police structure, where the use of informants, covering up criminal networks, and collusion with smugglers came to be seen as “necessary compromises,” blurring the lines between law enforcers and lawbreakers. These practices continued to protect those involved in human smuggling, while the victims faced legal harassment and unjust persecution, justified by various arguments such as “no grounds for investigation despite clear evidence,” or explanations that were inconsistent with the facts or documented events, such as claims that legal procedures might overburden the smugglers, or warnings against putting pressure on the perpetrators who themselves pursued and extorted their victims for years through colluding Oslo police officers.
Each case in this context became a mirror of a deep institutional paradox: when guardians of justice become complicit in its corruption, the truth is forced to defend itself alone. Dark comedy is no longer a metaphor; it has become a daily ritual of police power in Oslo, where laws are exploited to circumvent justice rather than uphold it.
Philosophers might say that justice is neither a uniform to be worn nor a law to be hung on a wall; it is humanity’s ongoing struggle to preserve the delicate balance between truth, right, and fairness. And power, no matter how great it becomes, is merely a tool that is meant to serve this balance, not undermine or distort it.
Socrates taught that justice begins with self knowledge, for one who does not know himself cannot judge rightly.
Plato viewed justice as harmony within the soul, mirrored in the state, where each part performs its role without overshadowing the others.
Yet in Oslo, it seems that this harmony has turned into a refined chaos that conceals the collapse of meaning itself.
Here, truth is erased, and justice is lost between the letter and the practice of the law, while victims remain in the shadows and corruption dances upon the ruins of what was meant to be a world of genuine justice.
Nietzsche once wrote that “justice was born from noble anger,” but that anger has long faded, replaced by systems that repeat themselves without spirit, wrapping their failures in the polished language of procedure.
Hannah Arendt warned of the moment when evil becomes ordinary, as part of a daily routine that no longer questions its purpose.
Thus, this reflection leaves the reader with a timeless question:
If justice is guarded by the very power that corrupts it, who then will guard the truth?
Philosophy? The written word?
Or that solitary conscience that refuses to be silent, even when it speaks from behind the walls.
